1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 or new Vam?

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1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 or new Vam?

Post by JmxTwiztid » Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:33 pm

There are not many to choose from, I'm leaning towards VAM 2 because of the doubled 18. However, there are many die cracks that are not listed as diagnostics for VAM 2. Opinions always welcome here!
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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

Post by JmxTwiztid » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:25 am

Any one out there that's good with the 1884 cc's

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

Post by hallco » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:22 am

Yup! I would say Vam 2 is correct!

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

Post by JmxTwiztid » Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:18 pm

Thank you!

My dilemma is that I haven't found any VAMs with the same die cracks that my 1884 has. I could have a new vam.... which would be amazing. Or I could have a vam 2 LDS. The grade would be hurt by the bag marks and I'm thinking she would only grade at best a 63.

If I have a new vam of course I'd like to submit it first to have it attributed then for grading. That's what I'm debating on.

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

Post by hallco » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:22 pm

JmxTwiztid wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:18 pm
Thank you!

My dilemma is that I haven't found any VAMs with the same die cracks that my 1884 has. I could have a new vam.... which would be amazing. Or I could have a vam 2 LDS. The grade would be hurt by the bag marks and I'm thinking she would only grade at best a 63.

If I have a new vam of course I'd like to submit it first to have it attributed then for grading. That's what I'm debating on.
I don't believe that die cracks alone would be enough to list a new Vam. I have no experience in that area, someone else I hope will chime in soon. The characteristics that DO show, are consistent with Vam 2. Good luck with your choice once the debate is decided! :)

Edited to add....if you can get a couple of good pictures of the entire obverse and reverse, that might be helpful as well.
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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 or new Vam?

Post by VamHelsing » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:44 pm

Yep, V2. Please remember that not everything is going to be noted for a particular VAM, mostly just the major stuff.
The dis cracks are not listable IMO.

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 Confirmation?

Post by CascadeChris » Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:13 pm

JmxTwiztid wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:18 pm
Thank you!

My dilemma is that I haven't found any VAMs with the same die cracks that my 1884 has. I could have a new vam.... which would be amazing. Or I could have a vam 2 LDS. The grade would be hurt by the bag marks and I'm thinking she would only grade at best a 63.

If I have a new vam of course I'd like to submit it first to have it attributed then for grading. That's what I'm debating on.
Die cracks aren't worthy of stage splitting a VAM until they become die breaks where the cracks become large and filled with thick, wide metal or field displacement occurs. Yours is and always will be just a VAM 2 LDS so no need to send it to Leroy. Keep it up though and you'll find your first discovery soon with a little drive mixed with the knowledge you're actively assimilating here and elsewhere 😉
Alonzi VW 2.0!

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Re: 1884 CC GSA, VAM 2 or new Vam?

Post by JmxTwiztid » Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:14 am

Thank you everyone.

I'm really enjoying learning so I hope my questions aren't too annoying. I'm glad I actually read to post here before sending it for verification. Hopefully soon I'll be able to answer my own questions but in the meantime, thank you all for being patient and answering!

Justin.

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