what caused this?

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what caused this?

Post by DHalladay » Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:31 pm

I see this from time to time, but usually not this dramatically. What caused it?
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Re: what caused this?

Post by collectinsince65 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:15 pm

Now that's cool!

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Re: what caused this?

Post by iceman » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:18 pm

WOW . Dramatic ! WAY COOL !

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CascadeChris
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Re: what caused this?

Post by CascadeChris » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:34 pm

A manifestation of date hub doubling. Thanks for bringing this up cuz I've always wanted a more detailed explanation of this. Such a unique look to this kind of doubling, especially with wild ones like this. @vampicker @messydesk ?

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Re: what caused this?

Post by colwillys » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:43 pm

Could have been loose die ... Look like icing on the stars .. Great coin , you have to love thing like that . WOW

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Re: what caused this?

Post by jgrinz » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:06 pm

Now that is c00l …
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Re: what caused this?

Post by vampicker » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:54 pm

I've thought of this as two forms of mechanical damage doubling interacting - a little shear from a loose die during strike and then it gets pushed more at ejection
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Re: what caused this?

Post by VamHelsing » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:01 pm

Trolls... :lol:

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Re: what caused this?

Post by LateDateMorganGuy » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:44 pm

Definitely looks like something "slid" during the coining process.

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Re: what caused this?

Post by CascadeChris » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:21 pm

vampicker wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:54 pm
I've thought of this as two forms of mechanical damage doubling interacting - a little shear from a loose die during strike and then it gets pushed more at ejection
I used to think that too, some sort of severe MD but I started seeing multiple examples of same obv's plus Leroy lists it as die markers sometimes doesn't he?
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Re: what caused this?

Post by raynat3 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:49 pm

Reminds me of that double struck picture a while back. I suppose strike doubling and double struck are cousins.

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Re: what caused this?

Post by vamnuke » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:59 pm

8-)

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Re: what caused this?

Post by alefzero » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:16 pm

My fault. Sorry about that.

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Re: what caused this?

Post by HawkeEye » Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:12 am

I think a good one for JB or Roger to answer.
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Re: what caused this?

Post by RogerB » Sun Jan 19, 2020 5:54 pm

Another possibility, and I think greater than any doubling of die features, is a loose die stake in the large press. This is an extreme version of a "loose die" where a die is not firmly set in the press. In this instance, only the upper (obverse) die could move enough to create the effects shown. Analysis requires examination of multiple coins from the same year and mint to separate possible mechanical causes.

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Re: what caused this?

Post by Geseas » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:35 pm

If I had to guess, from just that one photo, using a Galaxy 4: It could be a jeweler with some fine silver soldering tools and skills. I have even made simular shapes in my soldering attempts on a circuit board.
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Re: what caused this?

Post by CascadeChris » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:17 am

Geseas wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:35 pm
If I had to guess, from just that one photo, using a Galaxy 4: It could be a jeweler with some fine silver soldering tools and skills. I have even made simular shapes in my soldering attempts on a circuit.
It's nothing like that. This is a somewhat common manifestation seen with regularity.
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Re: what caused this?

Post by Geseas » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:24 am

Thank you CascadeChris, very unusual.

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Re: what caused this?

Post by Tennessee » Mon Jan 20, 2020 4:50 am

Nice, beautiful Morgan. That's a fancy date. 🌟🌟🌟

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Re: what caused this?

Post by bhinkle » Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:08 am

What ever caused it Dennis, I had to copy your photo and save it.
VERY UNIQUE
Thank you for posting a photo of it.
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