1921-D Unlisted VAM?

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1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by TheFinn2 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:36 am

I found a 1921-D with die cracks not seen in those listed on VAMWorld. I don't know if this is a set of new dies that have not been listed, or just that it is a LDS of already listed VAM. I marked the die cracks in red to make them easier to follow.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:38 am

I have one coming(hopefully tomorrow) that is a slightly later die state than this one. I could not match it either.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by Raybob15239 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:00 pm

Take note of the die gouge at the tip of the hair by the M initial in the neck. See if you can find that in the listings.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 1:25 pm

I could find no mention of it.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by bjsilverfox » Sun Nov 25, 2018 5:56 pm

I have had one of these put away for some time. I just figured Leroy decided there are no attributable features.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:06 pm

Has he already looked at it BJ?

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by Raybob15239 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:19 pm

That hair gouge is visible to the naked eye. I would think it should be listable.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by TheFinn2 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:09 pm

Raybob15239 wrote:
Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:19 pm
That hair gouge is visible to the naked eye. I would think it should be listable.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by ljs123 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:34 pm

I don't see a gouge at the end of the hair. :shock: Could you take a close up photo?
It just looks like the end of the hair on a 21 to me. :?
I might be missing what you are talking about.
Please clarify
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by Raybob15239 » Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:54 pm

At the tip of the hair there is a straight gouge going up into the base of the neck. The hair ends before hitting the neck on earlier years. I went back to the VAM pages and see that it is normal for 21P. In my best Emily Litella voice, Nevermind :oops: .
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by bjsilverfox » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:04 pm

No, I never sent it to LVA to take a look at it.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:10 pm

Thanks BJ.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:46 pm

Here are some pics of the coin. There are some listable features. Some scribbles, doubling and die breaks. I am currently trying to match the scribbles. Anyone want to help, feel free. Help is always welcomed.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 6:46 pm

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by messydesk » Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:27 pm

I'll look at the scribbles tonight if nobody has matched them by then.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:14 pm

I looked and didn't see anything close.

Thanks for the help.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by bjsilverfox » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:19 pm

I think there was an old post (pre Vamworld 2.0) titled eagle eyed or something to that effect, that referred to the crack from the eagles eye, through the eagles wing to the D of United. If I remember correctly there was no discussion about a VAM number or sending the coin to LVA for attribution.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by tmanhg » Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:21 pm

Hopefully JB will have something to say tonite.

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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by TheFinn2 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 4:46 am

I could send the dollar to someone if they want to take a look at it. I don't have the hardware to get in close. The piece I have looks to be uno. details and cleaned.
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Re: 1921-D Unlisted VAM?

Post by messydesk » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:07 am

I'm drawing a blank with this one. There are some that are close, but close doesn't count here.
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