Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

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Kissov
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Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by Kissov » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:00 pm

Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is the so-called 'spiked' O (of ONE), with a small gouge at the lower right side.

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VAM-3L has a gouge at the D of DOLLAR.

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Both of these show a die crack through the R of DOLLAR.

First VAM-3L:

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Now VAM-104:

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They look suspiciously the same.

But they are not. Stay tuned...

Kissov
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Re: Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by Kissov » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:04 pm

The die cracks both pass from R in DOLLAR into the right wreath.

That of VAM-3L passes through a berry:

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While that of VAM-104 passes on the edge of a berry:

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DHalladay
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Re: Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by DHalladay » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:28 pm

Agreed... they are not the same.
VAM 3L obverse features that are not on 104:
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VAM 3L gouges at eagle's throat, and scribbles, are not on 104:
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vamnuke
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Re: Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by vamnuke » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:44 pm

good stuff

Kissov
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Re: Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by Kissov » Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:26 pm

Thanks Dennis.

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Re: Morgan 1921-P VAM-104 is not VAM-3L

Post by Geseas » Sat Jan 30, 2021 10:09 pm

Great photographs you share here.

My question is: Under the 'Research Needed' in "Comments" could a post like this one be added as a link for these two Vam Pages?

Kind of like this:


Comments:

1-V-104 maybe a version of V-3L More research needed: [url=http://www.vamworld.com forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4811>Kissov Research</url]

Yes, I will soon be your new software programmer. :roll: (I don't think you would want me running-a-muck in your software.)

I'm going to substitute '<>' for the '[]' brackets to show you how to make a link.

<url=yourURLHere>Your descriptive text Here</url>
Your descriptive text Here
Kissov Research
1-V-104 maybe a version of V-3L More research needed:Kissov Research
1-V-104 maybe a version of V-3L More research needed:Kissov/DHalladay Research


...something like that. Just a thought. Editing anything requires a lot of special consideration.
My point is; finally: A quality shared photograph, pre-filtered to very specific point is rare and hard to do; In my opinion.

Kind of like the coins here, do you send it to a third party and into a slip or just leave it Raw?


Great Site here and now. Just the way it is.

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