1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

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1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by Windycity » Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:08 pm

Welcome opinions on what is going on with this 1921 Morgan. Assume acid treatment but surface is relatively smooth. What do you think is going on here?

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by vampicker » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:26 pm

Post mint polished to death. Likely something like one of those old shoe buffers
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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by VamHelsing » Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:13 pm

Looks fishy to me.

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by Kissov » Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:46 pm

I've got a 1921 very similar to this one (it is around here somewhere).

I'm not sure that over-polishing explains this. The obverse has pretty good detail but fades off at "UNUM". The reverse looks OK for most of the wreaths and the eagle's tail. The matte finish doesn't suggest polishing either.

I suppose it is possible that someone took a Dremel to this in spots.

Could this be a die-trial strike?

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by vampicker » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:36 pm

...sigh....
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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by colwillys » Mon Dec 21, 2020 10:49 pm

Could this have been used in the nuke process like some of the Peace dollars .

What is the weight of this thin dollar .

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by Windycity » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:01 pm

Coin is 26.4 grams

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by RogerB » Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:46 pm

Suggest looking at the edge; that will tell you what was done.

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by Windycity » Tue Dec 22, 2020 5:37 pm

Edge looks normal

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by vampicker » Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:10 pm

I'm not sure I was clear about this. This is a genuine dollar that has been subjected to horrible post mint abuse more damaging than whizzing. I'm not guessing about this. The only thing that's speculative is what type of rotary brushing tool that did this evil deed. This thing is worth melt.
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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by fogie » Tue Dec 22, 2020 9:18 pm

VAMPICKER is right on the money here. Polished to death!

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by Kissov » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:31 pm

Look, I'm not saying this dollar has not had a rough life.

But if I showed you this:
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Would you say polished to death?

This, perhaps.

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The pattern here, especially on the obverse, shows tremendous control over whatever process was applied. To what end? Clearly not to make it shiny.

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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by vampicker » Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:53 pm

If you feel I'm wrong don't let me stop you from going out and buying more coins like this.
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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by DHalladay » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:09 pm

John:

Take a wild guess... how many Morgans have you individually and critically inspected over the years?
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Re: 1921 "Mush" - strike? Post Mint Damage? Acid Treatment?

Post by vampicker » Tue Dec 22, 2020 11:16 pm

At least a million. And coins in general, it's more like two million
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