One PCGS Order Grades In

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One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by alefzero » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:32 pm

Sent two in during the promotion over the summer. The first one just posted.

40047 1799 $1 B-19 BB-155 F12 USA
40067 1800 $1 B-1 BB-181 VF30 USA
3799 1872 5C MS62 USA -- FS-305
133973 1878 7TF $1 R78 VAM 79 Fill in 8s MS64 USA
133920 1888-O $1 VAM 9 Doubled Arrows MS65 USA
134016 1889-O $1 VAM 20A Weak E Rev AU55 USA
7074 1878 7TF $1 Reverse of 1878 MS64 USA -- VAM-197
133855 1879-O $1 VAM 28 O/Horizontal O AU58 USA
7128 1881-O $1 MS65 USA -- VAM-53
134000 1886 $1 VAM 20 Doubled Date MS63 USA
7282 1902-S $1 MS65 USA -- VAM-3

Pretty happy. Not sure why the FS-305 didn't get on the tag. Was pretty sure of it. The VAM-20 in 63 is a good grade. Expected the VAM-197 to get a 64+ or 65 and the VAM-28 is a classic slider that would easily be in an MS62 holder at NGC.
Bowers: "1799 BB-155 is one of the key rarities of the year. I believe that only 70 to 110 exist today."
Bowers: "This [1800 BB-181] is one of the scarcer varieties of the year. I estimate that 90 to 160 exist in all grades combined...Most examples are in lower grades, with VG and Fine being quite acceptable for the variety. VF coins are very rare, and any piece over VF, such as the Spies EF, would be a sure-fire Condition Census item. All seen are lightly struck at the centers."

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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by vamnuke » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:57 pm

8-)

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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by VamHelsing » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:25 am

:shock: Nice! Like the 86 V20!

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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by DHalladay » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:38 am

Great order John! There are some BIG coins there.
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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by RogerRock » Tue Dec 01, 2020 4:31 am

Great return ! Draped Bust Dollars are a favorite.
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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by pup_picker » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:25 pm

nice group. i do enjoy someone posting early dollars here.

the bb-181 info i think is a bit out-dated. it is the 2nd most common in the pops with several pieces over vf. a quick search only shows 1 in ha.com archives which is a big statement in itself but other venues are known to sell a lot of early dollars as well and i've not perused them in a while. having one straight-graded in vf is a nice one to have, especially for the collector. really ANY early dollar in vf straight-grade is nice minus a few that were squeeze into one.

i'm not sure if the r5 is accurate but will say r5 on early coinage is kind of where rarity starts. really r6 and above is where interest picks up, so long as information is close to updated and accurate. (aside from popular and well-known marriages/varieties. there are many exceptions spread across all denominations for the era)

i've seen you delving into these for years and i must say, it is almost more fun that should be allowed. hope your experience has been that and more.

this is vamworld but since the ssdc has added early dollars, which i support, do we get to see a PIC of that beauty?

my comments are not intended to be disparaging. simply commentary/discussion. i love our 18/19th century coinage most and always.

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Post by alefzero » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:02 pm

Here is the TrueView for that BB-181. For those unfamiliar with these, the PUPs are the die poop around the 11th star on the obverse (adjacent to Liberty's chin) and the leaf connected to the lower right corner of the I/AMERICA on the reverse.
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I agree on that and a handful of others that are not as rare as Bowers and those before him assessed. What is actually cool is that some fairly common early dollar varieties exhibit some of the more startling features. 1799 BB-161, 1798 BB-125, 1798 BB-118 LDS, 1795 BB-51 (off-centered bust) immediately come to mind.

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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by pup_picker » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:52 pm

neat dollar you have there. does it have a prong insert so you can see the interesting edge too?

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Re: One PCGS Order Grades In

Post by alefzero » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:47 am

Still in transit from Newport Beach to San Diego. It should though.

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