New Counterfeit Peace Dollar for the Collection

[cmerlo1]

My buddy @shortnock acquired this counterfeit 1922 Peace dollar yesterday, mixed in with a bunch of dollars one of the local dealers picked up. He gave it to me today, knowing I collect counterfeits. In looking at the rays and lettering it appears they used the reverse from a 1921. It has a lot of manual touch-up of the letters on both the obverse and reverse, and I noticed while photographing it that the second 2 has obviously been added to a '192' dated die. That makes me think it might be modern Chinese, but it does show wear and signs of age, as well as damage. Weight is 25.3 grams and it is non-magnetic. Has anyone seen this particular counterfeit before?

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[pup_picker]

pretty nice one too. i bet that would fly through most shops and be never the wiser.

[vamnuke]

[RogerB]

Interesting fake. Resembles impact transfer dies. Might predate the explosion of Chinese fakes.

[shortnock]

Also note that it has a higher-pitched sound when given the "ring" test. Its reverse of 1921 is what caught the eye.






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[HawkeEye]

Was the dealer selling it as genuine?

[cmerlo1]

Was the dealer selling it as genuine?

No. It was in a bin of dollars they had recently purchased. @shortnock and I sometimes get to look through them before the dealer has a chance to, specifically because we occasionally find key dates or stuff like this. It was purchased from the dealer as a counterfeit.

[Kurt28]

From my own collection.

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[RogerB]

Same dies?

[RogerB]

cmerlo and kurt28.

Would each of you permit me to possibly use your photos in the next Guide Book of Peace Dollars edition? If so, please PM me with permission and also how you want the credit line to read.

Thanks!

[vampicker]

Same dies?

Looks like Kurt's piece has a B2 reverse design

[Kurt28]

Roger, I'm honored.
You are welcome to use the pics.
PM sent but not registering in sent mail box.
Contact me at Jarms@tznet.com and I'll send large raw photos.

[RogerB]

Reply sent via email.

PM did not show up....odd.

Anyone else with counterfeit Peace dollar photos, please let me know. he book has a fixed page count so I have to be certain there is enough useful material to justify the changes.

[vampicker]

Kinda fond of my brass slug

[VamHelsing]

Any use for a fake Morgan? I have one.
@cmerlo1

[RogerB]

Well, it's a Peace dollar book....but if you have a fake 1922 Morgan....that might work.

That brass thing barely counts as a counterfeit....

[vampicker]

That brass thing barely counts as a counterfeit....

Sure, but it's actually circulated.

[JohnGoldsmith]

I have a 1886 CC and a 1885 S.
I like the 1885 S because it clashed and shows a E.
Awful specimens but I wonder how long did his die last after the clash.

[VamHelsing]

Also pretty sure I still have a 1799-CC Trade dollar...

[jrfaust]

Roger, here's my only Peace$ counterfeit. Didn't know it was a fake till I sent it to Leroy (oops)
Here's a couple pics and the paperwork from Leroy.
Enjoy!

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