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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:40 pm
by PacificWR
Thank you Mike. Could I get you to take a close up of the neck and the back of the cap where the cap clash would be. On the neck there may be a chunk missing. On the reverse could you take a close up from the wing to the N of IN? Thanks!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm
by JASONKFLO
collectinsince65 wrote:
Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:36 pm
Here they are Wayne
Hope they help

Mike





1889 vam 7a obv.jpg
that is a really nice coin looks under graded

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:02 am
by Options25
Oh my, wow just wow. One day, this is on my list to find. Huge congrats.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:13 pm
by collectinsince65
Hey Wayne
Couple more images
Hope they help
Mike
1889 vam 7a obv neck crop.jpg
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1889 vam 7a obv cap crop.jpg
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:22 pm
by collectinsince65
Two more images Wayne
1889 vam 7a obv neck tip crop.jpg
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1889 vam 7a rev slab crop.jpg
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Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 8:34 pm
by PacificWR
Mike,

The close-up photo of the neck says it all. There is no doubt it is the same obverse die as VAM-23A. Thanks for posting the photos it sure answered a lot of questions and opened the door for others. Think I know the story on the reverse die.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:16 pm
by vampicker
You guys are trodding right into active research that got stymied by Leroy's situation due to COVID. I wanted to do this in person, but now I feel I have to launch preemptive strike just to keep the details straight. Still refuse to put the 23A loaner in the mail. I have the details worked out and all the actual pieces in hand. The tentative listings that were already done are only part of the real story here.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:19 am
by PacificWR
vampicker wrote:
Sat Sep 05, 2020 11:16 pm
You guys are trodding right into active research that got stymied by Leroy's situation due to COVID. I wanted to do this in person, but now I feel I have to launch preemptive strike just to keep the details straight. Still refuse to put the 23A loaner in the mail. I have the details worked out and all the actual pieces in hand. The tentative listings that were already done are only part of the real story here.
Yeah I kind of figured that out when there was very little response. You know it would probably be a good idea when a study like this is under way to create a post and let the rest of the VAM community know. In short, I think I have the obverse die figured out and with the remaining puzzle pieces coming in the mail (on the reverse die) I should have a good handle on the reverse die I will keep the finding to myself. I do not blame for not wanting to send the 1889-P VAM-23A in the mail. I would not do that either. You may be in for a long wait.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:40 am
by vampicker
It has been mentioned, including in this thread.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 5:20 am
by PacificWR
vampicker wrote:
Sun Sep 06, 2020 12:40 am
It has been mentioned, including in this thread.
Like I stated above creating a new topic with a little information like the general purpose of the study and the folks involved would let the VAM community know a study is in the works. I would venture to say most folks do not read every single post or attend the Fun Show or other coin shows. Whenever I have an update to my 1900-S die study I create a new post and share the latest findings with the VAM community.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:22 pm
by andywoj00
If it lends to this thread, here are links to my 1889-P V23B and V23D. Gonna reshoot the LFCP's later on.

I may have a V23C, but I cannot capture that transfer as shown at the plate photo. However, the coin shows a double clash line at the jawline and a single clash line a bit below it. Can I assume the single clash mark is representative of where the n transfer would be? What I see is what shows on the additional photo at the VAM-23C page.
Any info and feedback is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Andy

http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23BAW111617

http://www.silverdye.us/wiki/Main/PhPa1889V23DAW082317

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 11:08 pm
by PacificWR
Andy you and Rod hit a homerun every time you take photos (SDP). The details are just remarkable. Your photos on what you are calling VAM-23D EDS prove without a doubt the obverse die used on VAM-23A is the same one used on VAM-23D. The photos just blew the door off the hinges. The damage to the neck and back of the cap are still there. On the reverse....let's just say for now it is very interesting. Thanks a million.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:23 pm
by LorenAlbert
Boom!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 10:56 pm
by RMG1883CC
Must be an SD’er — How about Boom city 🤣

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:29 pm
by vamsterdam
in all of the literally thousands of vams i have picked, NOT ONE was a 1889 vam 23a! wow! now that would make me lose my poker face!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:47 pm
by PacificWR
vamsterdam wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:29 pm
in all of the literally thousands of vams i have picked, NOT ONE was a 1889 vam 23a! wow! now that would make me lose my poker face!
I could not pay for the coin fast enough and get home. It was unreal.

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm
by kepi
What a great find! Congrats! I'm new here...feeling my way around ; )

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 12:03 am
by PacificWR
kepi wrote:
Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:06 pm
What a great find! Congrats! I'm new here...feeling my way around ; )
Thank you and welcome aboard!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:07 am
by fogie
Congratulations!!

Re: Guess what I found in the $30.00 box of Morgan's

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:25 pm
by PacificWR
fogie wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:07 am
Congratulations!!
Thank you.