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1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:32 pm
by DHalladay
Sent a batch of nine 1921-Ps in December (including reference pieces). LVA's letter shared so much that he and Marilyn have been going through these past 7 months (not just covid-19) that it makes my heart ache for them. :(

Two VAMs were killed. Ironically, both were my "discoveries". :lol:
– VAM 102 was confirmed to be a duplicate of VAM 21, so was killed.
– VAM 118 was confirmed to be an LDS of VAM 40A, so was killed.

Two coins were deemed "not enough", and thus go back into my "What Are These?" box.

There was one new discovery: VAM 3A1C. Here are my photo details:

3A1B copy.jpg
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3A1A copy.jpg
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3A1C copy.jpg
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Many thanks to Kissov for pointing out the VAM duplications that resulted in 102 and 118 being killed, and to Algot for lending his VAM 21 that had previously been attributed by LVA. :D

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:50 pm
by hairfield1
WTG on the new discovery :D

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:47 pm
by colwillys
WTG Dennis , very good nice work .

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:50 pm
by Longstrider
Nicely done. Congratulations!🐍

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:29 pm
by vamnuke
8-)

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
by PacificWR
Dennis, congrats on your new DC. Can you upload LVA's letter so I can create the new page?

Re: Coins back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:39 pm
by DHalladay
PacificWR wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:23 am
Dennis, congrats on your new DC. Can you upload LVA's letter so I can create the new page?
LVA 7.10.20.jpg
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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:31 pm
by ljs123
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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:41 pm
by DHalladay
Happy Dance indeed.
2 kills + 1 new discovery = 1 net less coin in the SSDC 1921-P date set. :D

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:14 pm
by weth
Congrats on the revisions, additions and corrections, Dennis!

Regarding the "not enough" examples, did LVA just call those VAM 1 / 3?
Was one of those the one that you posted about a while ago, with the break through the N in ONE?

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:18 pm
by DHalladay
weth wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:14 pm
Congrats on the revisions, additions and corrections, Dennis!

Regarding the "not enough" examples, did LVA just call those VAM 1 / 3?
Was one of those the one that you posted about a while ago, with the break through the N in ONE?

Both are D2 coins. Strangely, he didn't call them VAM 3s. Here's the first:

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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:20 pm
by DHalladay
And here's the second:

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38051607 scribbles 3.jpg
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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:21 pm
by DHalladay
More pixs of "not enough" #2:

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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:31 pm
by PacificWR
Dennis,
Were there any plate photo's?

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:12 pm
by DHalladay
PacificWR wrote:
Sat Jul 18, 2020 10:31 pm
Dennis,
Were there any plate photo's?
Not any of the new discovery, just 2 of the 3A1B revision that I don't understand the need for at all.

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:03 am
by Kurt28
Thanks for sharing, and congratulations. I hope this is an indication that Leroy and Marilyn are doing better.
I've been reluctant to send anything for a while.

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:14 am
by RogerRock
Great to hear more news from Leroy on VAM listings! Wonderful to see two kills, one DC, and a revision on
the 1921 P series. Good work Dennis!

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:51 pm
by PacificWR
Dennis can you upload the plate photos? Do you want any of the photos on this thread added to the pages?

Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:44 pm
by DHalladay
PacificWR wrote:
Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:51 pm
Dennis can you upload the plate photos? Do you want any of the photos on this thread added to the pages?

Here are the new plate images for the revised 3A1B listing:

3A1b plate 1.jpg
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Re: 1921-Ps back from LVA

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:49 pm
by DHalladay
Here are 5 images that could/should go on the new 3A1C page (with these descriptions):


VAM 3A1c does have a gouge from the left wreath to the left star:
3A1C star.jpg
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VAM 31Ac does have pitting from the first A in AMERICA to the rim:
3A1C pits.jpg
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VAM 3A1c does not have a gouge under the eagle's tail feathers:
3A1C tail.jpg
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Different lighting angles show different VAM 3A1c scribbles detail:
3A1C scribbles 1.jpg
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3A1C scribbles 2.jpg
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