scribbles + toning = headache

[DHalladay]

D2 reverse.
And no, the reverse isn't actually like this. But when I reduced black and shadows to get some scribbles detail, this is what resulted.

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[ljs123]

My knee jerk response would be to guess VAM-3EU.
Could that be it

[CascadeChris]

Oh, that one. Dip that one. Good one to hone your skills on scribbles vs thick color though. But if the headache starts sounding like you're watching Jumanji murder that color. Or even just a qtip dot dip. That one has to be a PITA

[tc94545]

Dennis : Buddy you have gone over the edge of the postage stamp where there is NO glue.... Or Hope......TC

[messydesk]

Dig out an old 80A filter and put it over your light source. It'll cut down the difference between the dark blue toning and the rest of the coin when you're examining looking at it. Of course, then the brown might turn black.

Anyway, if that doesn't work, dip it. It's not like it'll get uglier.

[HawkeEye]

Does this help

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[DHalladay]

Does this help

Yes it does! Thanks Hawkeye.

[DHalladay]

My knee jerk response would be to guess VAM-3EU.
Could that be it

Lee: Thanks for looking, but that's not it. I'm going to keep plugging away at this; there's enough detail that I should be able to figure it out.

[DHalladay]

I thought I had this figured out as 3EM, but the right wing scribbles don't quite seem to match:

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[Kissov]

How about 3BX?

[ljs123]

Is there anything in the bow?

[DHalladay]

How about 3BX?

3BX doesn't have horizontal scribbles in the right wing (my coin does) and 3BX has multiple die cracks on each side (my coin has none).

[DHalladay]

Is there anything in the bow?

Not a whole lot Lee.
– There's a line below and left of the M.
– There are diagonal polish lines inside the bow.
– And there appears to be a horizontal line above the left ribbon.

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[ljs123]

Dennis,
Your wing scribble photo did it
VAM-62
Check out LVA/Crae's scribble guide.

[DHalladay]

Dennis,
Your wing scribble photo did it
VAM-62
Check out LVA/Crae's scribble guide.

That's the one Lee!
Thank you!!

[indian4]

Great shots, great discussion. This is why I do this!!

[CascadeChris]

Great shots, great discussion. This is why I do this!!

Yeah, I dig threads like this -even if it is a 21 - we need more similar. And what ever happend to VOTW?

[HawkeEye]

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[HawkeEye]

Sharpened it a bit and seems to help

[messydesk]

I tried salvaging the original photo a bit. This is where Photoshop comes in handy. Load image into two layers. Keep the blue channel in one layer and the red channel in the other, then blend keeping each pixel that is brighter between the two layers. Merge the layers, then to flatten out the lighting a little, a high pass filter with a pretty large kernel size. Finally, sharpen with an unsharp mask set at 50% with a kernel radius of 1 pixel. It's still not very clear, but the scribbles stand out a little more.

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