scribbles + toning = headache

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scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 12:51 am

D2 reverse.
And no, the reverse isn't actually like this. But when I reduced black and shadows to get some scribbles detail, this is what resulted.

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by ljs123 » Wed May 06, 2020 1:05 am

My knee jerk response would be to guess VAM-3EU.
Could that be it :?:

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by CascadeChris » Wed May 06, 2020 1:10 am

Oh, that one. Dip that one. Good one to hone your skills on scribbles vs thick color though. But if the headache starts sounding like you're watching Jumanji murder that color. Or even just a qtip dot dip. That one has to be a PITA :lol: :lol: :lol: :? :mrgreen: 😎
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by tc94545 » Wed May 06, 2020 1:34 am

Dennis : Buddy you have gone over the edge of the postage stamp where there is NO glue.... Or Hope......TC

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by messydesk » Wed May 06, 2020 3:16 am

Dig out an old 80A filter and put it over your light source. It'll cut down the difference between the dark blue toning and the rest of the coin when you're examining looking at it. Of course, then the brown might turn black.

Anyway, if that doesn't work, dip it. It's not like it'll get uglier. :)
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by HawkeEye » Wed May 06, 2020 2:06 pm

Does this help
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 3:56 pm

HawkeEye wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 2:06 pm
Does this help

Yes it does! Thanks Hawkeye.
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 4:17 pm

ljs123 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:05 am
My knee jerk response would be to guess VAM-3EU.
Could that be it :?:
Lee: Thanks for looking, but that's not it. I'm going to keep plugging away at this; there's enough detail that I should be able to figure it out.
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 4:57 pm

I thought I had this figured out as 3EM, but the right wing scribbles don't quite seem to match:

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by Kissov » Wed May 06, 2020 5:16 pm

How about 3BX?

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by ljs123 » Wed May 06, 2020 5:25 pm

Is there anything in the bow?

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 5:30 pm

Kissov wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:16 pm
How about 3BX?
3BX doesn't have horizontal scribbles in the right wing (my coin does) and 3BX has multiple die cracks on each side (my coin has none).
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 6:02 pm

ljs123 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 5:25 pm
Is there anything in the bow?

Not a whole lot Lee.
– There's a line below and left of the M.
– There are diagonal polish lines inside the bow.
– And there appears to be a horizontal line above the left ribbon.

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by ljs123 » Wed May 06, 2020 7:10 pm

Dennis,
Your wing scribble photo did it :!:
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by DHalladay » Wed May 06, 2020 7:26 pm

ljs123 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:10 pm
Dennis,
Your wing scribble photo did it :!:
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Check out LVA/Crae's scribble guide.

That's the one Lee!
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by indian4 » Wed May 06, 2020 7:31 pm

Great shots, great discussion. This is why I do this!!
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by CascadeChris » Wed May 06, 2020 8:02 pm

indian4 wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 7:31 pm
Great shots, great discussion. This is why I do this!!
Yeah, I dig threads like this -even if it is a 21 :P- we need more similar. And what ever happend to VOTW?
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by HawkeEye » Wed May 06, 2020 10:15 pm

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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by HawkeEye » Wed May 06, 2020 10:22 pm

Sharpened it a bit and seems to help
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Re: scribbles + toning = headache

Post by messydesk » Thu May 07, 2020 1:12 am

I tried salvaging the original photo a bit. This is where Photoshop comes in handy. Load image into two layers. Keep the blue channel in one layer and the red channel in the other, then blend keeping each pixel that is brighter between the two layers. Merge the layers, then to flatten out the lighting a little, a high pass filter with a pretty large kernel size. Finally, sharpen with an unsharp mask set at 50% with a kernel radius of 1 pixel. It's still not very clear, but the scribbles stand out a little more.
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