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1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:34 pm
by jgrinz
Is a coin with this obverse crack from the hairline
only seen on the O/CC variety OR is this crack obverse seen on other VAMS also.
I do not have this coin in hand yet OR I would answer my own question :-)
Cannot quite see the MM clearly in the pictures
It is quite unique



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Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:50 pm
by ljs123
VAM-11 is a pretty common O/CC
This looks like a VAM-11 to me.

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 4:57 pm
by collectinsince65
Nice pick!

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:13 pm
by ljs123
I'm so sorry, I didn't look close enough. :x This is not a VAM-11 O/CC. :( The crack is in the wrong location and the mm is also not in the correct location for the VAM-11. It is not an O/CC. I will see if I can figure this out and get back to you.

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:15 pm
by ljs123

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 pm
by lewisr2
This probably is a 1900-O VAM-33.
The 33 has the obverse of the VAM-11 O/CC.

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:31 pm
by ljs123
lewisr2 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 pm
This probably is a 1900-O VAM-33.
The 33 has the obverse of the VAM-11 O/CC.

I do not believe the 33 and the 11 are the same obverse.
First, the crack out of the hair is in a different location.
But more importantly, the date locations are different. The date on the 11 is located a little bit left of the second denticle. The 33 date is just to the right of the second denticle.

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2020 6:42 pm
by jgrinz
ljs123 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:31 pm
lewisr2 wrote:
Mon Feb 10, 2020 5:19 pm
This probably is a 1900-O VAM-33.
The 33 has the obverse of the VAM-11 O/CC.

I do not believe the 33 and the 11 are the same obverse.
First, the crack out of the hair is in a different location.
But more importantly, the date locations are different. The date on the 11 is located a little bit left of the second denticle. The 33 date is just to the right of the second denticle.
I think you are correct
P00P! thought I snagged a cheapie ... hahah
Tis a perty coin though

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 11:04 pm
by Bigbub
All VAM 11 1900 O/CC obverses have a distinct diagonal die gouge from the left wheat stalk below 'I' in Pluribus to the right bottom of 'I' in Pluribus. The coin pictured is a VAM 33, whose obverse does not. All VAM 33 have a doubled 1 on the lower serif.

Re: 1900-O Morgan with THIS crack ... O/CC?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 10:06 pm
by jgrinz
33 it is
Interesting Die Chip in between tail feathers - Right above the arrow shafts.
Looks like it is on the coin examples also

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