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A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:44 am
by CascadeChris
So, I picked these two rev of 79's up on my trip, unattributed, and put them both in the same flip. Just got around to attributing them and this happened. How strange, huh ๐Ÿค”๐Ÿคจ :lol:

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Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 am
by DHalladay
Kind of a daily double.

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:12 am
by TheYokel
DHalladay wrote: โ†‘
Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:04 am
Kind of a daily double.
I'll wager $2500, Alex :lol:

That's pretty cool Chris. Like they were meant to be together all along...

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 12:13 pm
by dave700x
Step sisters. Nice pickin' :D

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:09 pm
by CascadeChris
Right. I got about 6 rev of 79's and put them all doubled up in 3 flips and these two were randomly put into one flip. Sometimes it's the little things that make you go :o... :lol:

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:19 pm
by vamsterdam
maybe if you had four slots, you might have put in a vam 2228, and v222a also.

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 pm
by CascadeChris
Guys, can we put the words "Cap gouges" or something to that effect on the 228A page? That was the first feature I saw, the little meteor shower of small gouges in the cap line. Tried using the search bar for "1878 p cap gouges" and nothing. If those two words were on the page, it would have come up. We need to think about what words someone would put in the search box to find the VAM they're looking for for an easier find and put those words on the pages.. Agree? @messydesk @vampicker @PacificWR @LateDateMorganGuy et al whatcha think?

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:50 pm
by LateDateMorganGuy
It depends on what catches folks eyes when they first look at a coin. Not everyone notices features that others do, even Leroy. Should I mention base attributes to start an attribution? I will leave the decision on "search words" up to others. Not trying to be confrontational, just reciting observations from my past is all.

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 1:58 am
by messydesk
CascadeChris wrote: โ†‘
Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:40 pm
Guys, can we put the words "Cap gouges" or something to that effect on the 228A page? That was the first feature I saw, the little meteor shower of small gouges in the cap line. Tried using the search bar for "1878 p cap gouges" and nothing. If those two words were on the page, it would have come up. We need to think about what words someone would put in the search box to find the VAM they're looking for for an easier find and put those words on the pages.. Agree? @messydesk @vampicker @PacificWR @LateDateMorganGuy et al whatcha think?
One tendency might be to add tags to pages, but that would render them less readable and full of what the casual observer would see as a bunch of gobbledygook, and you'd still have to search correctly to find it. Don't do this.

What I'd recommend is adding an appropriate caption to images that already show what you would search for. I did this and searching for ""1878-P" cap gouges" turns up VAM 228A as the third VAM page match, even though I didn't literally say "cap gouges" in the text. The other benefit here is in giving a concise explanation of why someone is seeing a particular image, increasing the value of the existing content.

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:13 am
by LateDateMorganGuy
Here is an example of what I am talking about. I was in the middle of the 1904-O Die Study when this happened.

A coin was submitted to Leroy that he originally listed as the NEW VAM-13A for the very nick of a "n" clash". Think die classifications at work here. I had this coin in my collection at the time, but it matched the VAM-23A with the "pitting or rust" between BU of PLURIBUS. I discounted the "nick" of the "n" clash because Leroy was not listing such minor clashed letters at the time as I had learned and been "spanked" by Leroy in the past for trying to get such things listed.

But I had to point out to both the submitter and Leroy that they overlooked the "rust" at BU. So the VAM-13A was delisted and named the new VAM-23B.

So both the submitter and Leroy missed the basic PUP of this die pair.

By the way, this is how listings get messed up. There is no VAM-23A now. All of them are now VAM-23B because any coin with the "rust" at BU is also clashed with the nick of the "n".

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:20 am
by LateDateMorganGuy
Did I mention, "Die studies folks, die studies".

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:45 am
by CascadeChris
Great discussion guys!

Scott, I want to tackle 81s as my first die study but I have no idea where to start, especially with a beast of a date like 81s. Maybe you can be my sherpa :)

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:58 am
by LateDateMorganGuy
Sent you a PM.

Re: A strange occurrence...

Posted: Wed May 01, 2019 6:55 am
by VAM-PIRE
GREAT SUPPORTING ACTRESSES in those fine photos, If I may add.