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I agree that this isn't a VAM 101. I also can't place it.
Fascinating that you have four of them! Hope we can identify it!

i see in peoples posts that narrowing the choice is made easier by looking for "die markers". Excuse a newbie's ignorance but what are they? A "die marker" is simply any prominent feature in the die that would be included in any listing for that VAM. What sort of markers these are can vary by date ...

I believe you are right, expat! That pattern of cribble below the 18 as well as the gouge in the eagle's mouth are both very characteristic of the VAM 5. And since there are prominent polishing lines on the reverse and no sign of a clash, it looks like the early die state before any clash occurred.

There are only 13 known varieties of 1883-CC. All have photo attribution pages here on VAMworld and your photos are plenty good enough to find your answer going one-by-one. In fact, your shot of the date is all you need. I have always totally ignored 1883-CCs, but I found your VAM pretty quickly. I...

Yup, that looks like a VAM 116. My original submission example also has that first left berry cluster scratch. Yours looks to be a little bit more LDS than mine.

That's some cool gold you're all posting! I've recently gotten into the Brazilian 960 Reis coins of the early 19th century. Each one is a fun puzzle, as they're mostly all overstrikes over some other coin, mostly colonial 8 Reales. So here's a triple - it's an 1817R Brazil 960R struck over a 1816R B...

Heh. I had not this exact one, but basically the same thing, being an old small white-label ANACS holder where the label said 166 and it was really a 160. I toyed for a long time with the idea of selling it anonymously through something like Teletrade, but I ended up sending it back to ANACS with a ...

I agree with JR that it looks like a VAM 14 to me, too

The VAM 5 has soooo many stages. Clash, polish, polish, clash, polish, clash, clash, polish - I'm working on a listing of stages, but it is difficult to enumerate them all. Your example looks like it is later than VAM 5C, but earlier than VAM 5D. If there is no discernible letter transfer, then I th...

Interesting! My latest die state example shows the break at F in OF but not the lower break into R.

The VAM 3GO is duplicated by the VAM 3HO, unless Dennis has taken steps to revise that listing..

I only have one that I can think of. When I was doing the 1883P die study I sent him one that he thought had distinctive features for a listing, but it was also toned and had machine doubling. "So I need to see untoned coin without doubling to list and photograph". Still haven't found another exampl...

Hey Terence,

Looks like a VAM 8. Thanks for posting that photo of the "we" as that gouge is a very clear diagnostic. For the VAM 4, the second C of the mintmark is tilted more upward, so I say VAM 8.

Tom / weth

I'm working on a listing of stages for the VAM 5, and should have a draft ready shortly. I'm certainly going to want input from the group, as there seem to be a couple possible stages that I can't find specific examples for... Speaking of 83CC stages, perhaps this is a question mostly for vampicker ...

Hey mvgebhard, There are two types of reverse dies used on 78-CC mintage. B1 reverse is Long Nock, B2 reverse is Short Nock. The other main differentiator to help narrow down attribution is whether the fourth star on the right is broken or not. I find this page helps me with finding the correct VAM ...

Try VAM 8

I agree, VAM 21.
It's that prominent doubling of the B on the obverse and N on the reverse that give this one away!

This is ending tomorrow, and some of 'em are currently fairly cheap. Thanks!

I agree that it looks like VAM 93 is the same as VAM 57 / 57A. Good work! I have an ANACS-attributed VAM 57A if that might help. As long as we're revising this listing, I think it helps to send as full a die progression as possible just to have the most accurate description and differentiation betwe...

Matches what I've found exactly. The deeper dive is adding all the minor stages. I think VAM 5 deserves this, in the same way the 78P 116 was expanded from four LVA listings to the seven stages. I'll need some more time, patience, and representative examples before I can make any such delineation, ...

Hi gang, I decided to venture out toward other mintage regions and collect the 78CC and 83CC sets. They both seemed like reasonable, bounded sets and that I wouldn’t really find anything new. For the 1883-CC varieties, it was pretty easy to find examples of VAMs 3, 4, 5, and 8, along with their vari...