1878-P VAM-41 7/8 Tailfeathers (7/7)

Discovered by Leroy Van Allen, December 1965. Reverse discovered by Neil Shaffer, November 1964.

This coin is a Top 100 Morgan VAM.

41 II 2 · B/Ak (7 TF) (180) I-5 R-5
Obverse II 2– Fourth right star has just part of point broken off.
Die marker - Diagonal die scratch up from top right cotton leaf. Also VAMs 34 & 39. Latest die state with further polished nostril and 4th right star plus clash marks.
Reverse B/Ak - Seven tail feather ends showing.

Comments:
1- A change in the Morgan dollar reverse design, reducing the tailfeathers from eight to seven occurred. Some of the dies were modified rather than simply recreated with 7 tailfeathers and those 7/8 tailfeather dies show the remains of the older set below the new. The VAM-41 exhibits the strongest set of tailfethers tips sprouting below the standard 7. On the obverse, there is a die gouge from the cotton leaf to the fold in the cap that can be used as a marker to identify this VAM. Note this gouge is also present on the VAM-34 VAM-39 VAM-41 VAM-41B which share the same obverse die as
2- The 1878-P VAM-41B (Discovery 2003) shares the same reverse, but has clashed obverse lettering. Because it is the reverse 7/7 TF feature that makes the coin a Top 100 variety, the VAM-41B qualifies as a Top 100 coin.
3- The 1878-P VAM-41A and 1878-P VAM-41C come from the same reverse dies, but have been polished-down to only show a 7/4 tailfeather feature. These two therefore do not qualify for Top 100 status.
4- The letter suffixes of these VAMs are out of order relative to die progression only because they were discovered out of order.

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LVA Plate Photo:
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Additional photos:
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Adding images of a DMPL. Note the scribbles behind the eye and on the back of the jaw particularly (also on on Liberty).
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Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-41 Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy ©Heritage Auctions ATTRIBUTED BY John Roberts at ANACSANACS_LOGO3.jpg
John Roberts is the Director of Attribution Services at ANACS, a prolific writer of coin articles for Coin World magazine and numismatic books. He is a longtime collector of Morgan dollar varieties and is considered an expert in attributing Morgan varieties. We're very fortunate to have him contribute in this forum as vampicker.
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Price History: 1-24-09 raw AU50 $42.00 eBay




Condition Census:

TPG
Variety
Designation
Total
1-3
4-6
8-10
12-15
20-35
40-45
50
53
55
58
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
Date
PCGS
7/8 TF VAM-41 Top 100
MS
67
7
4
6
1
9
57
32
33
56
91
0
16
17
12
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2013
NGC
7/8 TF VAM-41 Top 100
MS
95
0
0
1
0
3
1
1
3
9
7
2
7
20
29
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MS
153
0
0
1
1
1
38
13
8
14
13
7
9
29
17
2
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MS
72
0
0
0
0
1
6
5
1
3
6
3
16
18
11
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MSDM
14
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
1
5
6
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MSDM
7
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
2
3
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MSPL
13
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
4
2
1
3
1
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41 TOP 100
MSPL
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
2
1
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010
ANACS
7/8 TF VAM-41B TOP 100
MS
31
0
0
0
0
2
1
2
4
7
3
1
2
5
4
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
6/2010


Total
389
*The Top 100 Morgan Dollar Varieties: The VAM Keys Copyright 2009 RCI. With permission from the authors Michael S. Fey, Ph.D., http://www.rcicoins.com, and Jeff Oxman, http://www.vamlink.com
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