1878-P VAM-170 Double Date

Discovered by Leroy Van Allen, December 1965.

This coin is a Hot 50 Morgan VAM.
This coin is a Top 30 1878 Variety

170 II/I 33 - B2c (Double Date) (193) I-3 R-4
Obverse II/I 33 - Doubled LIBERTY shifted slightly to left; doubled P, U, and R. All stars on left slightly doubled; all stars on right doubled. Date doubled, with tops of 1878 showing the greatest shift.
Reverse: closed o,broken r

Comments: The late die state (LDS) exhibits clashing, but not significant enough to warrant a sub-variety classification.

No LVA Plate Photo:

Additional photos:

The VAM 170 has very distinct doubling across the tops of all four date digits. This is visible with the naked eye and should be a very simple differentiator from the VAM 166.
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The date doubling combined with the die chip shown here will positively identify the VAM 170. There should be no problems confusing this variety with the VAM 166 LEARN THIS
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The bottom left foot of the left vertical of the R in PLURIBUS is distinctly doubled on the VAM 170. Often this is the first pickup point I see when checking the VAM. I generally begin by checking which reverse the coin has and then I move to the obverse E PLURIBUS UNUM. Once I see the base of this R, I move down to the date and the die chip as shown above.
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pictures above are the U in PLURIBUS, the M in UNUM, the 4th left star and the 6th right star on the VAM 170.
Above photos and text are courtesy of Ash Harrison.

Reverse with Broken R in TRUST
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Doubled R in PLURIBUS
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Heavilly polished dies on the reverse.
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Doubled Liberty shifted left. Die scratch in T.
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Die chip on neck
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Repunched date
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Doubling on 4th star
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Here is an NGC MS-65 DMPL submitted by Rick Snow:
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Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-170 Images on loan to VAMworld courtesy ©Heritage Auctions ATTRIBUTED BY John Roberts at ANACSANACS_LOGO3.jpg
John Roberts is the Director of Attribution Services at ANACS, is a prolific writer of coin articles and books and we're so happy to have him contribute here in this forum as VAMpicker. He informs us that the VAM-170A which is listed as having die chips above the cotton leaves is the same as VAM-170. He has never seen a 170 without the chip. As a result of this,ANACS which slabs ALL VAM numbers, does not slab a VAM-170A.
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Large Full Coin Copyrighted© VAM-170 Images© on loan to VAMworld courtesy TeletTradeLogo14.jpg® ATTRIBUTED BY John Roberts at ANACSANACS_LOGO3.jpg
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From Heritage's auction archives another here here here here



Price History:

11-27-2012 PCGS MS62 $666.00 TT


Condition Census:


TPG
Variety
Designation
Total
1-3
4-6
8-10
12-15
20-35
40-45
50
53
55
58
60
61
62
63
64
65
66
67
68
69
70
PCGS
VAM-
MS

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0
0
0
0
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0
0
0
0
0
0
ANACS
VAM-170
MS
103
0
0
2
2
7
42
21
7
6
8
1
4
3
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
NGC
VAM-
MS

0
0
0
0
0
0









0
0
0
0
0
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